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  IC 2014 talk: "A Century of Kingdom Rule Contrasted With a Century of Satan’s Rule"

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a discussion of this talk on friday morning deserves its own thread.

  as i said elsewhere, it was a remarkable one.

  the speaker was manfred vencebi (google him - he's a bethel bigwig) and some of his remarks are real gems.

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  I swear, scientists could proclaim that they've cured every type of cancer known to man and the WT would trump that with something like "We had 3,000 hits on our website in one day!"

  Narcissists.
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  For love

  by fredPotato in

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  2. family

  hi there folks,.

  i no longer believe in a dime the wt corporation says.

  for over a year i've been inactive in field service and i skip meetings whenever i can.. all my family is jw, and that includes my spouse.. i have already come open with her and exposed the wt for what it really is.

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  I second JAMIEBOWERS.

  Washing the dishes/cleaning the house when she's gone; the glass of wine when she gets home. . . etc. . .. Be creative.

  Make your not going to meetings/service the best thing that ever happened to her.

  BTW FREDPOTATO - your screen name "resonates" with me - won't go into details. But when you first posted and I saw it, I SWORE it was someone I know!
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  The Ravings of Trolls Distracts FOCUS From Real Watchtower Scandals

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my thread was inspired by gentledawn's insightful comment about the effect the events in wales had on her jw husband.... hope any lurkers out there can filter out the signal (storys and experiences like this) to noise (the current trolls running amok on the forums) ratios.

  this the problem with those who focus on outrageous fantasies about the watchtower.

  it distracts from the real issues that need to be highlighted.. what happened in wales was for real.

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  Hope any lurkers out there can filter out the signal (storys and experiences like this) to noise (the current trolls running amok on the forums) ratios

  This is why I would never (if this situation ever arose) direct anyone interested in knowing TTATT to this forum or any other, for that matter.

  However, I would encourage them to look at jwfacts.com as everything on their is spot-on and backed up by evidence.

  This is kind of sad, since their is a lot of great stuff hidden around here that jwfacts doesn't get into, but then there's the "noise" which someone just waking up could find disturbing to the point of disrupting their progress out of the cult.

  But once they know TTATT and want some support, sure, a place like jwn is great.
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  Cults and Convergent Evolution

  by cognisonance in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a thought popped in my mind on the way to work today.

  most jws don't think they are in a cult (or an organization with many cult-like features).

  this isn't really surprising considering most cults dont think they are, well, a cult.

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  Interesting analogy, COGNISONANCE
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  I got asked to do the literature cart witnessing!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so as i have told everyone here, i am well along in my fade, and know ttatt.

  i have even been pursued by the elders and interrogated re my "seemingly loss of spirituality and activity etc..." even though i am still an ms.. but cop this!...

  i have been asked to join in the exclusive literature cart witnessing activity!

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  Congrats!

  You've obviously been chosen by Holy Spirit.
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  How Best to Kill off the Disgusting Old Whore of Brooklyn

  by Focus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been absent from the anti-wts scene for a decade.. for some of this time, prominent bethelite has prepared a version of the list of watchtower lies and insanity which is about 50 (yes, fifty) times larger than its predecessor.. for some details, read here:.

  http://hourglass2.com/forum/index.php?id=1702.

  i would welcome views thereon.. it is to be anticipated that the filthy spiritual-pornographer society would respond with robust legal action to prevent dissemination of this work, misusing copyright and other law to repress it.. one can arrange for the entire new work to be placed, in downloadable pdf format, on the internet, in an enormous variety of hard-to-remove-from places.. i welcome views and commentary.. --.

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  Soon-to-be the Disgusting Old Ho of Upstate NY. . . . . .

  Interesting. . . . .
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  The problems Bible believers have with Atheists is the burden of proof is on the Believer and we just do not have enough proof.

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recently posted a post telling this board my athesit coworker stumped me with questions about the validity of the ark story and i just cannot stop talking to her.

  i love hearing her side and point of view which in the past i would have dismissed as "satanic" thinking.

  she has some very good questions and i am having a hard time answering them.

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  It's nice to be able to have a discussion on a topic you don't neccesarily agree with, but with an open mind and without the WT guilt for thinking "wrong thoughts." That in itself is a liberating experience, even if you don't "change sides."

  Talking with "worldy people" outside the context of trying to convert them is wonderful!
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  Kicking the "Gay Habit" at the IC

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  heard from a reliable source that this was part of friday's program.

  they even interviewed a "former gay man" who "kicked the gay habit".. evidently kicking the "gay habit" is difficult, not unlike quitting smoking or avoiding sugary snacks.

  the persons who related this to me found the whole thing to be laughable at best, but honestly seemed quite disturbed by it (which is good!

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  breakfast of champions

  Thanks for the direct quote ANNOMALY.
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  No Refusal Blood Checkpoints!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in oregon, during the 4th of july weekend, troopers will be conducting checkpoints to see if someone has been drinking.

  if someone refuses a breath test, they will be forced to have their blood extracted from them.. what do you think of this?.

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  Must be an Oregon thing.

  In my state if you refuse a breathalyzer test, you're automatically charged with DUI.

  Yes, the drawing blood involuntarily thing is quite invasive. I think I'd rather just be charged.
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  Critique of new JW DVD: “These Words Must be on Your Heart.”

  by WingCommander in

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  2. friends

  http://youtu.be/dhn2to663cu.

  im really channeling my inner blondie with my observation and critiques of these new watchtower videos.

  something about them really turns my stomach.

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  Watched the whole thing with my wife evidently just before it got pulled. . .

  I guess the thing we both noticed was the absence of any "kingdom message." I mean, here the guy kills his kid brother and. . .. . . where's the mention of the New System and resurrection? Completely absent. Instead he tells his son that he was named after him to remind him of his mistake.

  So the message of this video is simply: reject careers, reject money, reject worldly people, reject science, reject gay marriage(?); embrace family worship, pioneer, sell yer house, quit your job and if you do all this. . . . You'll be a Jehovahs Witness.

  I really got the impression that they don't even believe their own bullshit about a paradise earth etc. They just want to keep people "in."